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Tiffany
Moderator
Australia
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 Posted - 22 Oct 2008 : 07:19:56
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amycherie83 it is obvious you want a DD and you wont find any reputable breeders for these types of dogs, only BYB and Puppy Farmers.
Guys remember this amycherie83 is a teacher and knows nothing. I hate to have my children being teached by this 'teacher'.
As Ellie said, anyone who crosses a Cavalier and Labrador are bloody morons or from another planet.  Good luck to your friend with behaviour problems of this so called breed.
"There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face."
-- Ben Williams
And I am rude.
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amycherie83
New Member
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Posted - 22 Oct 2008 : 09:28:18
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Yet again Tiffany you have jumped to conclusions and are WRONG. I infact have purchased a PUREBRED Cavalier from a reputable breeder. She will be 10weeks when i have her home, i have planned it to coincide with my holidays because i am a responsible pet owner. I do share your thoughts though Tiffany, i would HATE to be a teacher of your children too.....especially if they are anything like you!
Thanks to everyone else who simply responded to my question and didnt try to belittle me. As i said i am inquiring on behalf of someone else, someone else who DIDNT do their research.
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Tiffany
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 22 Oct 2008 : 13:01:05
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Well if that was the case, then a teacher would explain it all first. Not by just asking questions. Giving us only half the story is not enlightening us.
Now, go and tell your friend how wrong he/she was for buying a DD and hopefully there will be no problems with this dog.
http://www.dogzonline.com.au/pedigree_dogs.asp
"There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face."
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And I am rude.
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Daisys Mum
Senior Member
Australia
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Posted - 22 Oct 2008 : 15:27:50
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The only reason we know about these "places" (I prefer to call them hell holes) is because we have taken the time to educate ourselves about puppy farming and BYB, that's why! There is gazillions of info about it on the net try the link at the bottom of my page or try this www.deathrowpets.net and better still pass on the info! The more people who know about it the better and the sooner it will be stoped! Unfortunatley I don't hold much hope for your friend who bought the cav x lab.....I agree with the others anyone who even knew a tiny bit about dogs would never ever mix 2 breeds that are so different!quote:
Originally posted by amycherie83
Yes i am serious and what is "trolling"? Im not asking for myself, its just a colleague recently purchased a cavador from there and i was interested to know about them just for my own sake (and noseyness) Its too late now, it arrives on Friday. Maybe i can warn them they might be in for a bumpy road with their new pup?!?! I looked at their site - all rosey of course - then i googled them - not much else. Maybe i am doing it wrong. Someone here seems to think i am incompetent anyway. But you people seem to know about these places so i thought id go where i could get a good answer. So yeah, just a simple question nothing sinister!!!!!!!!
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realmc26
Starting Member
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Posted - 02 May 2010 : 19:46:31
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I'm in similar situation to the poor teacher above who was savaged by this forums moderator and senior members. For reasons I don't have to justify to anybody I am also looking for a cross, mongrel, bitza, whatever. Ill call it a spoodle cos we all know what I'm talking about and I could not care less if its not a real breed.
Like her I do care about where I buy my dog or I would just go to a pet store.
Do you really think every registered breeder of purebred dogs is, by definition more caring, responsible etc etc than a well run breeder of crossbreed's?
The very nature of pure breeding has lead to inbreeding and genetic and behavioural problems in numerous breeds, And if you believe pure bred dog breeds were created by god and not by natural selection and (shock, horror) CROSSBREEDING then you are indeed not using your www Tiffany. No Im not an expert either, I just used my google finger to find that out.
So I gather that unless people choose to either buy a pure bred or their mongrel, cross breed from a pound they are satans offspring?
My google finger also found out that the spoodle (yes I know Tiffany "no such thing, cocker spanial x poodle") is Australias most popular/most sought after dog at the moment,pure bred or cross.
Im guessing the reason is that they look damn cute, are intelligent, low allergy issues, non shedding etc etc. People want them for these reasons and could not give a hoot that it is not a pure breed. So that being the case people like the incredibly polite and restrained teacher above and myself do the due diligence to try and find a way to obtain the type of dog we want from the most humane, reputable, responsible and caring source possible.
Thats why I stumbled on this forum as no doubt the teacher did above, using our good old www Tiffany, to try and educate ourselves and benefit from those who have experience, knowledge etc.
The self righteous diatribe and nasty invective directed at her and numerous other posters in other posts by the administrator and senior members of this forum is really something I have not come across in other forums. Forum Administrators by definition or norm are usually responsible for maintaining an acceptable standard of conduct and raising the bar when people are treated with disprespect, ridicule and more.
But no, here the wonderfull administrator in Tiffany leads the baying pack of hounds as they tear into any person who does not share their point of view or simply looking for information.
Tiffany I suggest that perhaps if you yourself took some lessons from our esteemed teacher in the forum your appalling spelling and small mindedness would probably benefit.
So on that note can any of you cheery souls tell me where I can find a Spoodle puppy that is from a breeder who is not entirely devoted to the dollar and where the dogs are free to run around throughout the day. I am prepared to travel from Melbourne throughout the state to check them out.
And by the way I have looked for similar cross breed dogs at pounds, shelters etc and as another thread poster commented, these dogs do not come up that often. Seems people don't want to keep their pure breeds! |
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realmc26
Starting Member
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Posted - 02 May 2010 : 21:39:06
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By the way Ms Moderator you claim that Billabong creek farm is also under investigation and you implied an internet search would find that. Well I searched under investigation, prosecution, breach, cruelty etc etc related to that farm.
The only reference that came up was the comment on your forum and interestingly enough on a forum related to stopping puppy mills was a photo of dogs breed at Billabong creek and a link to its website!
So I would like to know who is investigating this farm and for what?
You would not happen to be a breeder yourself Tiffany would you? No special interest?? |
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Tiffany
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 03 May 2010 : 08:24:42
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To realmc26 this post is over two years old, of course you wont find anything NOW regarding Billabong Creek. It has probably been taken off via court orders. Who knows.
Do you really think every registered breeder of purebred dogs is, by definition more caring, responsible etc etc than a well run breeder of crossbreed's?
No I dont. Even purebred breeders are just as shonky as BYB and its up to us, the public, to weed them out. If you find one, dob them in.
The self righteous diatribe and nasty invective directed at her and numerous other posters in other posts by the administrator and senior members of this forum is really something I have not come across in other forums.
Then you know very little. It is mention, debated and what not on hundreds of forums all over the world. You need more research, or perhaps you are only one sided, like a few who come on here and want to challenge me. I am not the only one who has said something about BYB. You have taken only one person views on this, mine.
Forum Administrators by definition or norm are usually responsible for maintaining an acceptable standard of conduct and raising the bar when people are treated with disprespect, ridicule and more.
And the pot that called the kettle black, really. And you are not?
And now this..........
So on that note can any of you cheery souls tell me where I can find a Spoodle puppy that is from a breeder who is not entirely devoted to the dollar and where the dogs are free to run around throughout the day. I am prepared to travel from Melbourne throughout the state to check them out.
I will say it again, no such thing as Spoodle. Its just a name. A gimmick. Definition of gimmick:- In marketing language, a gimmick is a quirky feature that distinguishes a product or service without adding any obvious function or value. Thus, a gimmick sells solely on the basis of distinctiveness and may not appeal to the more savvy or shrewd customer.
And on a final note..........
Good luck in your search and may you receive a happy health Spaniel X Poodle that gives you years of happiness.
Round two.......??
"There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face."
-- Ben Williams
And I am rude.
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Tiffany
Moderator
Australia
2536 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 08:32:50
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Oh I forgot to answer you other question.
You would not happen to be a breeder yourself Tiffany would you? No special interest??
No I am not.
"There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face."
-- Ben Williams
And I am rude.
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Ellie
Starting Member
Australia
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Posted - 04 May 2010 : 20:37:53
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Im guessing the reason is that they look damn cute, are intelligent, low allergy issues, non shedding etc etc
Being part Cocker, there's a very good chance that a "spoodle" will shed. 
I don't know anywhere that breeds this cross ethically, but if you do get one, ensure that the Cocker parent has been DNA tested for PRA/PRCD and FN (a google search will explain these two diseases) or you may end up with a puppy who goes blind or has kidney problems which can be fatal.
The crossing of these breeds does not automatically eliminate hereditary diseases.
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Tiffany
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 05 May 2010 : 07:57:06
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You are so right Ellie. Out of a litter of 'Spoodles' you may only find one puppy that will have non/low shedding.
Here is a link to a Poodle breeders website with regards to Poodle Health....
http://pantonepoodles.com/health.htm
Now tell me what BYB will test for these?
"There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face."
-- Ben Williams
And I am rude.
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muze
Starting Member
Australia
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Posted - 14 Jul 2010 : 13:37:17
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Found your thread on a search of Rivergum Designer Puppies. My neighbour has put in a planning request to council to operate a dog breeding business of 50 dogs. I have been advised by another neighbour that they are related to the people who run Rivergum. We bought this country property to build on and retire in PEACEFUL surroundings. These guys bought the block next to us after us. There's no way we would have bought our block if we had known this is what was going to happen. All we can do is object, but what can we do if we are not successful?  |
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